Domo 25 Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Lizzy said: Probably. It depends on whether you crit or not. As far as I know the special can't crit but if you hard hit with it and it crits you may do more than the special but I would definitely count on it doing at least as much as a heavy attack and most likely more than one. Sweet. Thanks again! Pretty surprised it has high accuracy without hit. Very cool. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
★BEE★ 78 Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) On 10/16/2017 at 2:10 PM, Domo said: Bee, awesome stuff. Do you by chance know how strong and accurate the special is? Thanks! The special attack of Ultimate Double Cannon is a strong, massive, rifle range AOE that can hit up to 8 targets (supposedly, it's hard to tell with the big pink cloud visual effect). It hits in a cone but it's pretty wide even close up. It has the same amount of hits as a normal double saber combo, so 2+1+3 = 6 total hits. Each hit does 15.5% of your maximum HP in damage to you, so a full SSS combo will do 93% of your maximum HP in damage in total. In addition, the special DOES build PB, and when used properly it can build it FAST. The special DOES NOT trigger mag invincibility (like Gal Wind) when it lowers your HP down below 10%. Someone asked me earlier "is that the 90hit UDC?" and I replied "yeah it is, just don't pay attention to all of the misses". Before I used it, I thought, "LOL, +150 ATA. I'll SSS with this all day LOLOLOLOL". Wrong. It's very difficult to hit the 1st and 2nd combo attacks with the special, despite having 90 hit, on top of the already pretty great 60 weapon ATA. Now don't get me wrong, it's still AMAZING and OP as fuck by the vanilla PSO standards I'm used to. That is, if you can pay attention to your HP and don't get greedy. <.< I talked to Ryuko earlier in a game about UDC, and they said they basically only use the special on the 3rd and final combo attack. You can afford to NNS > NNS > heal > repeat from full health this way. This is a very reliable way of doing ranged damage. Perhaps it isn't as effective as Charge Vulcans on single targets, but it sure as hell is a refreshing alternative to spamming DoB or Charge Diska for crowds / bosses. One of the reasons I chose to level up a HUnewearl before my HUcaseal was to be able to unseal SJS, and spam the shit out of UDC specials since I have access to resta. It takes two Resta casts to max my HP, but this might change one I eat all of the HP mats I can and hit level 200. BUT, my MST will be higher then also and my Resta is only level 16 atm. UDC is also fucking amazing at breaking boxes. The special can hit boxes in other rooms even. Things I have yet to test at time of first posting (EDIT: added answers to these after testing): Quote Elevation: Can hit hit high, like Dragon or Gal Gryphon in the air? I've fought Gal a lot today and it looks like I'm missing it a lot while it's in the air. Lavis Cannon's special was very vertically challenged too. It could hit enemies lower than you, but not higher. Perhaps UDC is similar????????¿?¿?¿?¿ UDC's special DOES NOT ignore manual evasion. It's very hard for it to hit Gal in the air, but seems to have an easier time hitting Dragon. Diving Zus are so-so. My UDC can actually CK (combo-kill) a multimode Zu with level 20 shifta and no zalure, provided enough hits land. However if it dives and I miss a lot that basically means a free kittycart back to Pioneer 2. And yes, it has no issues hitting targets at lower elevation than you. Quote Can it hit Dubswitch through walls? YES. UDC hits through walls (but not enemies in other rooms as mentioned before). This can and should be abused in the case of tough enemies like Dorphons, Astarks, Delbiters, or any enemies that are fucking annoying as shit to fight out in the open. Quote Can it hit Yowie/Satellite Lizards from the front? NO. A resounding no. It CANNOT hit Yowie or Satellite Lizards from the front. It counts as a ranged attack. Likewise, I hear Dark Flow's special is the same. Quote Does it make Gorans teleport to you as if you shot them with a gun? YES. It is VERY risky to use the special attack on Gorans. You can actually CK them if you're lucky, or, failing that, attack them with SSS relatively safely if you IMMEDIATELY use a Trimate after your combo finishes before they hit you. Still, this is very dangerous and I recommend getting a lot of distance on Gorans before trying, otherwise their teleport range might be short enough for them to teleport behind you and incap you. Quote Can it hit Vol Opt through screens? NO. Quote Does Smartlink help? After the tests in ep4 with Gorans and lizards, I'm about 99% certain it does. Quote Can it trapshoot? Can it trapshoot in place???? I'm pretty sure it can trapshoot, but I'm not sure if can do it in place. I've been able to hit high up at Dark Bringer at "I'm literally hugging you"-range, so maybee????? etc Sorry for delayed response I've had this open for hours and forgot to post lololol. Also sorry for the wall of text. <.> :EDIT: Adding answers to some of my initial questions. Edited October 19, 2017 by ★BEE★ editing answers into my questions I had for UDC 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Domo 25 Posted October 17, 2017 49 minutes ago, ★BEE★ said: Thanks! The special attack of Ultimate Double Cannon is a strong, massive, rifle range AOE that can hit up to 8 targets (supposedly, it's hard to tell with the big pink cloud visual effect). It hits in a cone but it's pretty wide even close up. It has the same amount of hits as a normal double saber combo, so 2+1+3 = 6 total hits. Each hit does 15.5% of your maximum HP in damage to you, so a full SSS combo will do 93% of your maximum HP in damage in total. In addition, the special DOES build PB, and when used properly it can build it FAST. The special DOES NOT trigger mag invincibility (like Gal Wind) when it lowers your HP down below 10%. Someone asked me earlier "is that the 90hit UDC?" and I replied "yeah it is, just don't pay attention to all of the misses". Before I used it, I thought, "LOL, +150 ATA. I'll SSS with this all day LOLOLOLOL". Wrong. It's very difficult to hit the 1st and 2nd combo attacks with the special, despite having 90 hit, on top of the already pretty great 60 weapon ATA. Now don't get me wrong, it's still AMAZING and OP as fuck by the vanilla PSO standards I'm used to. That is, if you can pay attention to your HP and don't get greedy. <.< I talked to Ryuko earlier in a game about UDC, and they said they basically only use the special on the 3rd and final combo attack. You can afford to NNS > NNS > heal > repeat from full health this way. This is a very reliable way of doing ranged damage. Perhaps it isn't as effective as Charge Vulcans on single targets, but it sure as hell is a refreshing alternative to spamming DoB or Charge Diska for crowds / bosses. One of the reasons I chose to level up a HUnewearl before my HUcaseal was to be able to unseal SJS, and spam the shit out of UDC specials since I have access to resta. It takes two Resta casts to max my HP, but this might change one I eat all of the HP mats I can and hit level 200. BUT, my MST will be higher then also and my Resta is only level 16 atm. UDC is also fucking amazing at breaking boxes. The special can hit boxes in other rooms even. Things I have yet to test: Elevation: Can hit hit high, like Dragon or Gal Gryphon in the air? I've fought Gal a lot today and it looks like I'm missing it a lot while it's in the air. Lavis Cannon's special was very vertically challenged too. It could hit enemies lower than you, but not higher. Perhaps UDC is similar????????¿?¿?¿?¿ Can it hit Dubswitch through walls? Can it hit Yowie/Satellite Lizards from the front? Does it make Gorans teleport to you as if you shot them with a gun? Can it hit Vol Opt through screens? Does Smartlink help? etc Sorry for delayed response I've had this open for hours and forgot to post lololol. Also sorry for the wall of text. <.> Thanks a bunch Bee! This is awesome. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spuz 44 Posted October 17, 2017 Wow, Beeautiful UDC, nice to see it made! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shiva 726 Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Shade said: Oh. im never going to visit dat nurse.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JanenbaDMS 517 Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Shiva said: im never going to visit dat nurse.... Do you require assistance? Edited October 18, 2017 by JanenbaDMS 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JanenbaDMS 517 Posted October 19, 2017 10 hours ago, Shade said: Hmm... Are you ready? I am now 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berry 51 Posted October 19, 2017 falz decided to leave me yet another gift. Seems like it's always just the impromtu ttf runs for drops 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killroy909 10 Posted October 19, 2017 There we have it folks I manage to get a Dark Matter Shoutout too Melissa,Hifoo and Bee for helping me out with countless of PW4 runs it was fun but dishearted when ill gill drops like 3 PDs. :"L 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oswald 18 Posted October 21, 2017 So I had 2 crates drop on the second run through the quest, which made me super happy. But then me and the person with me both died before i could even try to grab the second one. That red box over there became the perfect example of how I felt when I opened the box and got a PC. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spuz 44 Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Don't worry @Oswald after you pick up one, the second will give you a message and you will be unable to pick it up anyways. As long as you got one of them, all is good. ;P Edited October 21, 2017 by Spuz 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berry 51 Posted October 22, 2017 Was doing some TTF runs with peeps and I took a screen at falz death since he died above player level, I captured some blur into it and it actually kind of makes the picture look a little nice imo some other random tidbits: 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socko 119 Posted October 23, 2017 Difficult drops? Yeah, bring 'em on: Lieutenant Mantle 1/6553,51 (nice 16-bit number btw, 65535 +1 = 256²) Light Relief (Normal) 1/9102,49 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
★BEE★ 78 Posted October 24, 2017 Omg Bee finally got something good again? >:3 Also I found a poor man's Sword of Despair. 30 hit Hellion Sword with Demon's special. :3 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NDW 97 Posted October 24, 2017 Lots of screenshots I've gathered up but never posted until now. Forgive me for the dump. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spuz 44 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) LOL, HOLY MOLY @NDW, When you said Dump, I was expecting a few, but my page was endless scrolling lmao. CGS on all of that. Edited October 25, 2017 by Shisui pls dont use such words, ty 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misombre 147 Posted October 25, 2017 But... why ? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSniper 22 Posted October 27, 2017 @NDW Can u Show a Picture of the new 2 "BannerItems" ? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misombre 147 Posted October 27, 2017 When luck strikes for Yskialuw twice... in the same room... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Domo 25 Posted October 29, 2017 I hate solo mode and government quests. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socko 119 Posted October 29, 2017 Another difficult drop (Luck Material 1/6068,33 - Redria, So Dimenian) on Normal while hunting Add Slots/Lanterns/unsealing Lame D'Argent ... and a present dropped in the same spawn. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shisui 392 Posted October 29, 2017 it has been done :3 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
